BrianKonarsMac
Apr 28, 08:56 PM
the iPhone doesn't compete against Android. The iPhone competes against all of the handsets running Android. And it's killing them. The 3GS as the second best-selling handset? That's frankly embarrassing for Android.
So tell me, in what world is having:
1 - the most popular handset
2 - the 2nd most popular handset
3 - the most popular mobile OS
4 - the most popular tablet
getting "badly beaten"?
That's a very nice spin you put on it there ;)
You actually gave the exact reason why the iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS sell more than any android phone. Android offers you so many more choices, that there is no way any single one of them would sell as many units as the two options you have for a phone with iOS.
So tell me, in what world is having:
1 - the most popular handset
2 - the 2nd most popular handset
3 - the most popular mobile OS
4 - the most popular tablet
getting "badly beaten"?
That's a very nice spin you put on it there ;)
You actually gave the exact reason why the iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS sell more than any android phone. Android offers you so many more choices, that there is no way any single one of them would sell as many units as the two options you have for a phone with iOS.
Crusader
Sep 12, 11:54 PM
I think the price has to do with it being not just hand made in general, but also hand stitched. They were telling me that hand stitching is stronger and easier to repair over what any machine can do, but takes a lot longer to do. They're really down to earth folks. Just a younger couple trying to make a living at a trade.
I want to have 1 or 2 but unfortunately I'm from Hong Kong. Not sure if they ship them oversea.
I want to have 1 or 2 but unfortunately I'm from Hong Kong. Not sure if they ship them oversea.
LordTyroxx
Apr 22, 05:12 PM
You went up in arms about the itunes logo, but when a mockup is truly horrible, you praise it? This is about the worst mockup i've ever seen.
Apple, please never ever put that awful backing on the iphone. ever.
You hip generation might like holes in your jeans and scratches on your phone, but I just think it's stupid. :p
Apple, please never ever put that awful backing on the iphone. ever.
You hip generation might like holes in your jeans and scratches on your phone, but I just think it's stupid. :p
dextertangocci
Jul 28, 07:19 AM
It will FAIL!!!!!!!
Idiot M$:rolleyes:
Idiot M$:rolleyes:
Brien
Mar 11, 05:57 PM
About one hour to go, brea mall is at ~600 in line. insane.
Ugg
May 1, 11:33 PM
I'm glad you get to decide what facts are facts. I guess someone has to do it.
It's true he's big. A big figurehead.
So was this guy.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/CheHigh.jpg
It's true he's big. A big figurehead.
So was this guy.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/58/CheHigh.jpg
lafemmme
Feb 1, 01:20 AM
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Back to being a gym rat, just signed up with 24.
Back to being a gym rat, just signed up with 24.
firestarter
Apr 26, 08:52 PM
transphobia That's a new one. It's almost as funny as the visual I got with a dude at the urinal with D cups.
Almost as funny as your daughters face when she discovers that her dad is a brutal bigot who waits outside toilet doors to beat people up (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12453464&postcount=56).
Almost as funny as your daughters face when she discovers that her dad is a brutal bigot who waits outside toilet doors to beat people up (http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=12453464&postcount=56).
salamence502
Jun 6, 04:46 PM
Am I the only one who laughed when the reporter said "a message for other parents of kids with an iTouch or iPod"?
DrupNL
Oct 21, 01:58 AM
I don't get presents for christmas, we celebrate Sinterklaas...
smugDrew
May 3, 07:54 AM
*cough* TFT Panels?!! Didn't iMac's always have an IPS Panel?
Chris Blount
May 3, 07:52 AM
Still only 500GB hard drive on the low end. Ug! Hasn't apple realized it's 2011 and 1TB should now be the minimum?
thisisahughes
Apr 13, 04:40 AM
OK, stop it already! Enough with the iPhone 5 / iPad 3 release date rumors, or put it on page 2.
thank you.
thank you.
steviem
Oct 21, 11:15 AM
All I really want is my fianc� visa to be able to get to really start my life... And maybe a car to go with my newly earnt driving license... Lol
mdntcallr
Oct 23, 10:21 AM
this is just microsofts way to stick it to the mac user who wants to use dual booting. not those who will use boot camp?
anyway you look at it, this is lame. Can't we just pay them and they accept our money? Now they will tell us it isn't enough, we have to pay more.
screw ms, people can't get a break FROM THESE LOSERS~!!
anyway you look at it, this is lame. Can't we just pay them and they accept our money? Now they will tell us it isn't enough, we have to pay more.
screw ms, people can't get a break FROM THESE LOSERS~!!
mc68k
Dec 2, 12:36 PM
i'm already over it, in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter too much. if i were to be credited all the stuff over the years i should have been im sure id have 100s of thousands more points :(
sammich
Oct 28, 01:06 AM
Well, I'll hop on the bandwagon. My measly old MBP should be able to cope with it. I'll get my PS3 onto the game as well, just to see how much I can get out of it.
(far out you guys are well equipped)
(far out you guys are well equipped)
appleguy123
May 1, 08:32 PM
I think me and jav6454 are tied at one vote each.
The 24 hour day started @ 4:21 yesterday. You reached one vote first. I don't think that this has ever happened before...
The 24 hour day started @ 4:21 yesterday. You reached one vote first. I don't think that this has ever happened before...
Green R
Nov 23, 05:34 AM
Look... I don't want to be a hater or anything like that but I have a first generation Ipod Touch... I got it as a present for my birth day, a month latter my wife have an Iphone 4 for her birthday so she sold her 3gs that i used to compare with My phone, the nexus One, look guys I need to be honest here, I got FULL Flash in my phone since it came out in the app market , and so far NOT a single problem with it, I remember when Jobs says it is not possible for a mobile device to have flash blah, battery drain, blah, poor performance blah, blah, blah... Dude flash is Awesome on my Android phone! no lag, no battery fast drain fast, no problems!!! do you guys have any tiny little Idea how @$#%^ cool it is going to www.newgrounds.com on my phone!? do you know!? or just playing online games like the ones on www.arcadepod.com? plus most of the apps are free!!! including that pathetic flash converter browser Skyfire that by the way is being in Android app market for like forever already!!! also it is sad that you have to Root (aka jailbroke) to get 20% more "liberty" with your phone! I already "convert" 4 Iphone users to Android at my job (400 plus workers) the rest are just plain envious of what android is capable of!!! without ROOTING!!! ahhh and don't get me starting in what you can do with a Root Android phone... My next Phone will be the Android HTC G2 that once rooted you can "BOST" to the phone to its real power........... 1.4 ghz!!!!!!!!!!!! With no battery issues!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVORX-ZFblA :eek:
Joellama
Apr 14, 07:57 PM
http://www.macrumors.com/images/macrumorsthreadlogo.gif (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/14/apple-releases-ios-4-3-2-ios-4-2-7-for-verizon-iphone/)
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/14/131435-ios_4_3_2.jpg
Apple today released iOS 4.3.2, bringing several minor fixes and improvements to Apple's operating system for mobile devices. The build number is 8H7 for the majority of devices, with the CDMA iPad 2 receiving Build 8H8. A separate iOS 4.2.7 build 8E303 is also available for the CDMA iPhone 4.BGR noted (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/07/ios-4-3-2-due-in-next-two-weeks/) one week ago that iOS 4.3.2 was expected to debut within two weeks and reported earlier this week that the update would fix (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/11/ios-4-3-2-to-fix-verizon-ipad-2-connectivity-facetime-issues/) the issue with CDMA iPad 2 connectivity and FaceTime glitches.
Article Link: Apple Releases iOS 4.3.2 (iOS 4.2.7 for Verizon iPhone) (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/14/apple-releases-ios-4-3-2-ios-4-2-7-for-verizon-iphone/)
Two versions of the iPhone and two current versions of iOS. Wait, is this iOS becoming fragmented? ;-)
http://images.macrumors.com/article/2011/04/14/131435-ios_4_3_2.jpg
Apple today released iOS 4.3.2, bringing several minor fixes and improvements to Apple's operating system for mobile devices. The build number is 8H7 for the majority of devices, with the CDMA iPad 2 receiving Build 8H8. A separate iOS 4.2.7 build 8E303 is also available for the CDMA iPhone 4.BGR noted (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/07/ios-4-3-2-due-in-next-two-weeks/) one week ago that iOS 4.3.2 was expected to debut within two weeks and reported earlier this week that the update would fix (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/11/ios-4-3-2-to-fix-verizon-ipad-2-connectivity-facetime-issues/) the issue with CDMA iPad 2 connectivity and FaceTime glitches.
Article Link: Apple Releases iOS 4.3.2 (iOS 4.2.7 for Verizon iPhone) (http://www.macrumors.com/2011/04/14/apple-releases-ios-4-3-2-ios-4-2-7-for-verizon-iphone/)
Two versions of the iPhone and two current versions of iOS. Wait, is this iOS becoming fragmented? ;-)
GadgetAddict
Apr 25, 11:32 AM
It's that time of the year again... :)
Eriden
Mar 15, 09:22 AM
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Folks - get your asses to Fashion Island - no confirmation on anything, but there's a good feeling here
Around 9 or so in line, as of 7 am
Spectrum does not have anything. Just broke the bad news to everyone in line.
Folks - get your asses to Fashion Island - no confirmation on anything, but there's a good feeling here
Around 9 or so in line, as of 7 am
Spectrum does not have anything. Just broke the bad news to everyone in line.
Zunjine
Apr 28, 11:49 AM
I think the idea of winning and losing here is far more subtle than can be expressed in terms of market share or sales figures. The mobile OS arena is likely to mature into a three player game; Android and WinMob will take the largest user bases - I don't think any analyst would disagree with this. There is no way that Apple's model can compete on absolute sales to the multi-device approach of their competition. But that's only a tiny part of the picture.
Look at the personal computer space. See how much money Apple makes with a fraction of the worldwide install base of Windows? If Apple can hold onto 15-20% of the mobile OS market (which I think they will) they will be the most profitable of any of the players in the game by a massive margin. What's more they are likely to hold on to the upper end of the demographic, just as they do in personal computers. Their customers will be high earners who will buy music and apps and other content. They'll be invested in the ecosystem in a way which Android users will not be.
Right now Apple is a huge player in the smartphone business, the only player worth talking about in the tablet game and makes more money from selling personal computers than anyone out there. They own the OS and the hardware and they have placed themselves at the centre of the software ecosystem. This is an integrated approach which no one else offers. This makes them unique. No one competes with Apple because no one else does what Apple does. I don't think Jobs and co. will be weeping into their skinny lattes at the growth of Android or their market share dipping. They'll be too busy counting the money - same as their software partners who are making more from iOS development than all the other platforms put together.
The future is bright. We consumers now have three top notch mobile OS options and dozens of great pieces of hardware. RIM will go bye-bye soon I fear - WinMob will kill them off. But we're the winners and we have a lot to thank Apple for. I worked in the mobile industry for years and I remember what passed for a smartphone before iPhone. We're living in a future dreamland compared to the crap that came before and that's massively down to Apple raising the bar. Apple wins, Android wins, MS wins and we win. Be happy people.
Look at the personal computer space. See how much money Apple makes with a fraction of the worldwide install base of Windows? If Apple can hold onto 15-20% of the mobile OS market (which I think they will) they will be the most profitable of any of the players in the game by a massive margin. What's more they are likely to hold on to the upper end of the demographic, just as they do in personal computers. Their customers will be high earners who will buy music and apps and other content. They'll be invested in the ecosystem in a way which Android users will not be.
Right now Apple is a huge player in the smartphone business, the only player worth talking about in the tablet game and makes more money from selling personal computers than anyone out there. They own the OS and the hardware and they have placed themselves at the centre of the software ecosystem. This is an integrated approach which no one else offers. This makes them unique. No one competes with Apple because no one else does what Apple does. I don't think Jobs and co. will be weeping into their skinny lattes at the growth of Android or their market share dipping. They'll be too busy counting the money - same as their software partners who are making more from iOS development than all the other platforms put together.
The future is bright. We consumers now have three top notch mobile OS options and dozens of great pieces of hardware. RIM will go bye-bye soon I fear - WinMob will kill them off. But we're the winners and we have a lot to thank Apple for. I worked in the mobile industry for years and I remember what passed for a smartphone before iPhone. We're living in a future dreamland compared to the crap that came before and that's massively down to Apple raising the bar. Apple wins, Android wins, MS wins and we win. Be happy people.
lilo777
Apr 23, 01:05 AM
Apple certainly can design a phone that supports LTE, but getting good battery life out of it is another thing. This is an area of focus for Apple so they won't make compromises here.
And that's exactly what's wrong with Apple philosophy. Consumers make compromises, companies make profits. There are plenty of people who would compromise battery life for speed. Are you saying that Apple does not care about them? Because they believe that battery life is always more important? Obviously the real reason is different. They are just trying to maximize the profits in their own way (i.e. keeping the number of models to a minimum) and that's why smart consumer should chose Android. With Android one can pick the phone they need (not the phone Apple think is best). Different people have different needs and with Android one can find a phone with a set of compromises that fits them best.
What do you don't seem to understand is that most people would rather not have to keep swapping the battery in their phone throughout the day, nor should anyone have to. There is demand for LTE, yes, but 4 hours of battery life is not what i would call good. What good is your phone to you if the battery is dead? You may be fine with switching your battery twice a day, but i think the majority of us would rather have a phone that we know is reliable and wont die on us. Also, 3G is good enough for me for now, and I know I'm not alone. When LTE/3G hybrid chips are here, i will welcome it.
What do you don't seem to understand is that every individual person does not care what most people need/want. I want to be able to buy the phone I need. If you go with what "most people" need it would be a dumb phone then (with great battery life BTW)
And that's exactly what's wrong with Apple philosophy. Consumers make compromises, companies make profits. There are plenty of people who would compromise battery life for speed. Are you saying that Apple does not care about them? Because they believe that battery life is always more important? Obviously the real reason is different. They are just trying to maximize the profits in their own way (i.e. keeping the number of models to a minimum) and that's why smart consumer should chose Android. With Android one can pick the phone they need (not the phone Apple think is best). Different people have different needs and with Android one can find a phone with a set of compromises that fits them best.
What do you don't seem to understand is that most people would rather not have to keep swapping the battery in their phone throughout the day, nor should anyone have to. There is demand for LTE, yes, but 4 hours of battery life is not what i would call good. What good is your phone to you if the battery is dead? You may be fine with switching your battery twice a day, but i think the majority of us would rather have a phone that we know is reliable and wont die on us. Also, 3G is good enough for me for now, and I know I'm not alone. When LTE/3G hybrid chips are here, i will welcome it.
What do you don't seem to understand is that every individual person does not care what most people need/want. I want to be able to buy the phone I need. If you go with what "most people" need it would be a dumb phone then (with great battery life BTW)
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