tigress666
Apr 29, 01:03 AM
It's thinking like that which makes lotteries so successful for raising revenue in so many states. Total cost is always a factor, and total cost includes not only plan costs for two years, but it also includes the value of the respective phones at the end of the contract period. At a minimum, a 3GS is going to be worth $100 less than an iPhone 4 after 2 years. So, with a total expenditure in the $1500-$2000 range, you'll be lucky if you save $50 in the long run by going with the slower, lower resolution, older technology model. Hardly worth it.
Ok, that works if you are thinking of getting a cellphone vs. not getting a cellphone.
But when you are thinking of getting what type of cellphone, no, it doesn't count. Cause by deciding you are getting a cellphone but trying to decide which type, you already committed to buying the plan,what type of cellphone does not affect the cost of the plan, you are going to pay it regardless. So the cost of the plan really doesn't count for the cost of the cellphone when you are comparing cellphones together.
Maybe if we were comparing getting a landline to a cellphone (where the costs of the service for the landline are going to be drastically different).
Or even if we were comparing going from AT&T to Verizon there might be some small difference. So only if the cellphones are on different networks (with the iphone though, this only matters if you are comparing to a T-Mobile or Sprint phone as you can get an iphone on either AT&T or Verizon so the plan cost will be the same for the iphone as whatever other phone you want to get on either network).
You still don't get the point.
The point is when we are comparing different cellphones to each other, the service doesn't matter cause if you are getting the cellphone, you are going to pay the service regardless and which cellphone you get isn't going to affect the service's price. Therefore it is irrelevant when talking cost of one cellphone vs. another to bring in the cost o the contract.
Ok, that works if you are thinking of getting a cellphone vs. not getting a cellphone.
But when you are thinking of getting what type of cellphone, no, it doesn't count. Cause by deciding you are getting a cellphone but trying to decide which type, you already committed to buying the plan,what type of cellphone does not affect the cost of the plan, you are going to pay it regardless. So the cost of the plan really doesn't count for the cost of the cellphone when you are comparing cellphones together.
Maybe if we were comparing getting a landline to a cellphone (where the costs of the service for the landline are going to be drastically different).
Or even if we were comparing going from AT&T to Verizon there might be some small difference. So only if the cellphones are on different networks (with the iphone though, this only matters if you are comparing to a T-Mobile or Sprint phone as you can get an iphone on either AT&T or Verizon so the plan cost will be the same for the iphone as whatever other phone you want to get on either network).
You still don't get the point.
The point is when we are comparing different cellphones to each other, the service doesn't matter cause if you are getting the cellphone, you are going to pay the service regardless and which cellphone you get isn't going to affect the service's price. Therefore it is irrelevant when talking cost of one cellphone vs. another to bring in the cost o the contract.
chrono1081
Apr 28, 04:06 PM
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The apple two-for-one special - it's UGLY and FAT, and all you have to pay for is ugly.
God the iPhone 4 I'm trying this message on looks so much better than the white one.
I'd be amazed if you could say something non-trollish for once.
The apple two-for-one special - it's UGLY and FAT, and all you have to pay for is ugly.
God the iPhone 4 I'm trying this message on looks so much better than the white one.
I'd be amazed if you could say something non-trollish for once.
lazyrighteye
Oct 24, 08:55 AM
What are peeps' opinion on the screen options?
I have never used glossy. Looks alright, in person. Not sure how it would be for everyday use tho...
Otherwise, nice update.
I have never used glossy. Looks alright, in person. Not sure how it would be for everyday use tho...
Otherwise, nice update.
jav6454
Apr 29, 04:03 PM
At this point, most people would call an explanation necessary.
I don't have one at this point. Random people killed and so far only villagers dead. I have no idea on a wolf.
Now if that is suspicious to you, then go ahead and kill me. You'll be surprised at the result.
I don't have one at this point. Random people killed and so far only villagers dead. I have no idea on a wolf.
Now if that is suspicious to you, then go ahead and kill me. You'll be surprised at the result.
nies
Apr 27, 08:54 PM
Ok appleguy :p
clintob
Oct 23, 10:27 AM
Why is anyone surprised about this? It goes without saying that MS will try to squeeze every dime they can out of Vista, and that includes making non-PC users pony up for the most expensive version. It's the way it's always been with MS... nickel and dime all the way. Just yet another checkmark in the "why I can't get away from MS fast enough" column.
Losers.
Losers.
BrianMojo
Jul 24, 10:33 PM
The new Ipod has no buttons, no scroll wheel, no headphone jack, no dock connector. In other words freedom from everything. The most aesthetic piece of technology ever conceived.
...
*ipod Nano will still have dock connector for now.
A non-physical hold switch would be highly impractical. I just want to be able to slip the thing into my pocket without worrying about changing the volume -- I don't want to have to use a fingerprint identification to do that.
Also, this was all posted on AppleInsider last week, why is this front-page news?
...
*ipod Nano will still have dock connector for now.
A non-physical hold switch would be highly impractical. I just want to be able to slip the thing into my pocket without worrying about changing the volume -- I don't want to have to use a fingerprint identification to do that.
Also, this was all posted on AppleInsider last week, why is this front-page news?
ifjake
Oct 24, 07:43 AM
as expected? 2GB RAM as standard configuration for the upper two is a little more than I expected.
damixt
Mar 15, 09:09 AM
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Cerritos had a reseller asking people to buy him some. **** him.
Cerritos had a reseller asking people to buy him some. **** him.
zen
Apr 16, 12:57 AM
on my first gen ipad I had problems installing and had to do a restore, but after restore its working just fine.
I've tried that. I get the same "device isn't eligible" error.
I've tried that. I get the same "device isn't eligible" error.
johnnymg
Apr 12, 02:08 PM
Originally Posted by dethmaShine
"Simply because htcSensation is 1.2GHz dual core
and... and... iphone5 will have lesser RAM than htcSensation.
Also, Apple is closed and Google is open.
okthxbai"
Ok, I'm convinced.
Also, comparing a product that hasn't been released yet to a product that hasn't been announced yet is a rather weak argument and makes zero sense.
Very funny retort to another Droidhead. These guys make the most ridiculous
statements. They're always good for a laugh!
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"Simply because htcSensation is 1.2GHz dual core
and... and... iphone5 will have lesser RAM than htcSensation.
Also, Apple is closed and Google is open.
okthxbai"
Ok, I'm convinced.
Also, comparing a product that hasn't been released yet to a product that hasn't been announced yet is a rather weak argument and makes zero sense.
Very funny retort to another Droidhead. These guys make the most ridiculous
statements. They're always good for a laugh!
Frisco
Aug 15, 08:42 PM
Is anyone else bothered by the button to buy more batteries?
Yes, it seems like a Microsoft thing.
Yes, it seems like a Microsoft thing.
TwoSocEmBoppers
Mar 15, 11:07 AM
Brea all sold out.
I got 32gb Verizon white ticket. Not the one I wanted but my plan is to purchase and then sell or exchange.
I got 32gb Verizon white ticket. Not the one I wanted but my plan is to purchase and then sell or exchange.
Surely
Sep 12, 09:43 PM
What did you think surely? I looked up Jamba's strawberries wild nutritional value and it about equals the mdondalds one. That's not bad considering everything out of mcdonalds is scary high in calories.
I really liked it. I couldn't really taste the banana very much, but that's not a big deal. I'll never buy anything else there (besides coffee), but I'll totally buy that again.
I got a small, but I think the medium size is the sweet spot.
I really liked it. I couldn't really taste the banana very much, but that's not a big deal. I'll never buy anything else there (besides coffee), but I'll totally buy that again.
I got a small, but I think the medium size is the sweet spot.
Banyan Bruce
Mar 31, 02:03 PM
Oh Apple Mail has a To Do list. And Notes. But the Calendar is a separate app, as is the Address Book. So why not also have a separate To Do and Notes application? Oh, because they're stored as special formatted email messages in Mail.app, that's why. So how about integrating Calendar and Address Book better in Mail. It's a mess.
Functionality over eye candy...please :)
Functionality over eye candy...please :)
MacDawg
Mar 8, 08:27 AM
My understanding is they are considering Rob Lowe as a replacement
TimUSCA
Apr 13, 03:21 PM
Id love to see a new standard for "HD". 1440p would be nice...but current media would have to catch up. That said, I dont think Apple could make a cost effective television. Sorry, but theyd sell a 42inch TV for 2000.000 easy.
The reason the cinema display is so expensive is due to the insanely high pixel density and it being LED backlit. It's max resolution is 2560 by 1440.
An Apple Television would only need to be 1080 across and LCD/Plasma.
HUGE difference in price.
The reason the cinema display is so expensive is due to the insanely high pixel density and it being LED backlit. It's max resolution is 2560 by 1440.
An Apple Television would only need to be 1080 across and LCD/Plasma.
HUGE difference in price.
toniv
Dec 2, 01:50 AM
Hi, you all!
This iAdware thing is old news and has been already fixed in latest security update by Apple.
Greetings from Finland,
Toni
Installer
CVE-ID: CVE-2006-4404
Available for: Mac OS X v10.3.9, Mac OS X Server v10.3.9, Mac OS X v10.4.8, Mac OS X Server v10.4.8
Impact: When installing software as an Admin user, system privileges may be used without explicit authorization
Description: Admin users are normally required to authenticate before executing commands with system privileges. However, the Installer allows system privileges to be used by Admin users when installing certain packages without requiring authentication. This update addresses the issue by requiring authentication before installing software with system privileges.
This iAdware thing is old news and has been already fixed in latest security update by Apple.
Greetings from Finland,
Toni
Installer
CVE-ID: CVE-2006-4404
Available for: Mac OS X v10.3.9, Mac OS X Server v10.3.9, Mac OS X v10.4.8, Mac OS X Server v10.4.8
Impact: When installing software as an Admin user, system privileges may be used without explicit authorization
Description: Admin users are normally required to authenticate before executing commands with system privileges. However, the Installer allows system privileges to be used by Admin users when installing certain packages without requiring authentication. This update addresses the issue by requiring authentication before installing software with system privileges.
Icaras
Apr 26, 12:41 PM
Is anyone on here going to delete all the music on their iPhone to be able to pay $20 per year to regain a subpar stream of there very own music? And at a detriment to their limited data amount? Am I missing something??
I'll delete all the music that I've purchased via iTunes that will be available on the cloud, yes.
With over 100GB of music in my iTunes library, i'll finally be able to make room for music I've purchased outside of iTunes while enjoying the music I have purchased in iTunes via the cloud.
Sounds like the best of both worlds to me. I can't wait to sign up for this.
I'll delete all the music that I've purchased via iTunes that will be available on the cloud, yes.
With over 100GB of music in my iTunes library, i'll finally be able to make room for music I've purchased outside of iTunes while enjoying the music I have purchased in iTunes via the cloud.
Sounds like the best of both worlds to me. I can't wait to sign up for this.
Snowy_River
Jul 12, 07:40 PM
I'm at a loss trying to figure out how this thread got a bit crazy...
The actual program used in Snowy's case matters little in getting it ready for the printer. You give the printer the file to print, and he/she will print it for you. Doesn't matter if it's a pdf from Word, a pdf from Pages, a doc from Word, an Indesign file, or a Quark Express file. If they can open the file, they can print it.
Again, most copy shops have elaborate folding, binding, stapling, and saddle stitching services that don't require the customer to figure out how to non-sequentually order pages. A skilled copy machine operator should be able to set up the job in less than 10 minutes.
You know, I'm with you. If we don't stop this bickering the thread is likely to get closed. I always find it irritating when that happens. So, I suggest we drop the "professional" vs. "consumer" argument. It's clear that we have different opinions, and neither of us seems to be being swayed by the other's arguments. So, perhaps we should just agree to disagree.
Now, just so I don't get accused of trying to get the last word in before saying that we should drop it, I'll invite those on the other side of the argument to have one last quip, which I won't respond to. Then we can drop it. Sound fair?
The actual program used in Snowy's case matters little in getting it ready for the printer. You give the printer the file to print, and he/she will print it for you. Doesn't matter if it's a pdf from Word, a pdf from Pages, a doc from Word, an Indesign file, or a Quark Express file. If they can open the file, they can print it.
Again, most copy shops have elaborate folding, binding, stapling, and saddle stitching services that don't require the customer to figure out how to non-sequentually order pages. A skilled copy machine operator should be able to set up the job in less than 10 minutes.
You know, I'm with you. If we don't stop this bickering the thread is likely to get closed. I always find it irritating when that happens. So, I suggest we drop the "professional" vs. "consumer" argument. It's clear that we have different opinions, and neither of us seems to be being swayed by the other's arguments. So, perhaps we should just agree to disagree.
Now, just so I don't get accused of trying to get the last word in before saying that we should drop it, I'll invite those on the other side of the argument to have one last quip, which I won't respond to. Then we can drop it. Sound fair?
etoiles
Jul 28, 09:56 AM
Competition is good...
fel10
Nov 8, 10:23 AM
Here are a few things I would like for Christimas!
iLife 11
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$50 iTunes Gift Card
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Final Fantasy 13 Soundtrack
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iLife 11
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/ilife11.jpg
$50 iTunes Gift Card
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/147833.jpg
Final Fantasy 13 Soundtrack
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b47/babyboy_hot2005/Christimas%20Wishlist/ffxiii_le.jpg
Willis
Aug 1, 10:48 AM
'Microsoft's Zune - Long Term Effort'... yeah, in R&D. 3-5 years time for a product is crazy. The market wont want what they will have on offer in that time. Its like that origami or whatever it is. Something that cropped up on MR, and then disappeared. no one cares.
gnasher729
Apr 30, 12:21 PM
I don't buy from either of these any more after being introduced to Gomusicnow.com (or any of the other 25 similar sites). 9 cents per song, or ~$.80-$1.5 per ALBUM. Quality 320 for most newer albums and 220-300 for older. Can't beat it.
It seems that gomusicnow.com is one of many, many successors to allofmp3.com, the first russian website that took advantage of russian laws to sell music very cheaply without paying the rights holders. So if Apple sells a song for $1.29, they pay $0.90 to the record company. No idea what Amazon pays when they sell the same song for $0.69. gomusicnow.com doesn't pay a penny.
Their legality is let's say dubious. What is more dubious is _your_ legality when you download music from their site outside of Russia (within Russia, it seems reasonably legal). Record companies and artists receive exactly the same payment as if you copy music from a friend or download it from some random website - none.
Top it off Mp3 is smaller at the same bit rate
http://ipod.about.com/od/introductiontoitunes/a/sound_qual_test.htm
I'd say he author of this website is making some stupid mistake here. Files at the same bitrate are the same size. Maybe his "256 kbit mp3" is "variable bitrate up to 256 kbit/sec" and his "256 kbit aac" is "variable bitrate of at least 256 kbit/sec" or some similar stupd mistake, or they have different album art.
It seems that gomusicnow.com is one of many, many successors to allofmp3.com, the first russian website that took advantage of russian laws to sell music very cheaply without paying the rights holders. So if Apple sells a song for $1.29, they pay $0.90 to the record company. No idea what Amazon pays when they sell the same song for $0.69. gomusicnow.com doesn't pay a penny.
Their legality is let's say dubious. What is more dubious is _your_ legality when you download music from their site outside of Russia (within Russia, it seems reasonably legal). Record companies and artists receive exactly the same payment as if you copy music from a friend or download it from some random website - none.
Top it off Mp3 is smaller at the same bit rate
http://ipod.about.com/od/introductiontoitunes/a/sound_qual_test.htm
I'd say he author of this website is making some stupid mistake here. Files at the same bitrate are the same size. Maybe his "256 kbit mp3" is "variable bitrate up to 256 kbit/sec" and his "256 kbit aac" is "variable bitrate of at least 256 kbit/sec" or some similar stupd mistake, or they have different album art.
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